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		<title>By: lautoka</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/16/are-cell-phones-bee-killers/comment-page-1/#comment-122515</link>
		<dc:creator>lautoka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at the facts... (1) the adult bees are disappearing, i.e. not returning to the hive. (2) other bees and insects are not raiding the declining hive for food/supplies as they normally would. (3) The queen bee is still present while the hive is declining. (4) young bees are still present while the hive is declining. (5) abandoned hives are only fit for re-population with a healthy colony after being treated with DNA destroying radiation.   ...What this says to me is that there is a problem within the hive itself, either within the food supply for the adults (honey), the hive material, a contaminating virus or pest, or something that causes the adult bees to stay away or abandon it. THE BIGGEST CLUE IS THAT OTHER BEES AND INSECTS ARE NOT RAIDING THE DECLINING HIVE as they normally would, both they and the deserting adult bees know something we don&#039;t about the hive and/or its remaining contents. THIS MEANS THAT CELL PHONE TOWER EMISSIONS CANNOT BE A CONTRIBUTOR to the problem, otherwise raids from other insects would occur as normal. The problem seems to be inside the hive, maybe a buildup of toxins from pesticides, DNA mimicking disruptors, effects from genetically modified crops, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at the facts&#8230; (1) the adult bees are disappearing, i.e. not returning to the hive. (2) other bees and insects are not raiding the declining hive for food/supplies as they normally would. (3) The queen bee is still present while the hive is declining. (4) young bees are still present while the hive is declining. (5) abandoned hives are only fit for re-population with a healthy colony after being treated with DNA destroying radiation.   &#8230;What this says to me is that there is a problem within the hive itself, either within the food supply for the adults (honey), the hive material, a contaminating virus or pest, or something that causes the adult bees to stay away or abandon it. THE BIGGEST CLUE IS THAT OTHER BEES AND INSECTS ARE NOT RAIDING THE DECLINING HIVE as they normally would, both they and the deserting adult bees know something we don&#8217;t about the hive and/or its remaining contents. THIS MEANS THAT CELL PHONE TOWER EMISSIONS CANNOT BE A CONTRIBUTOR to the problem, otherwise raids from other insects would occur as normal. The problem seems to be inside the hive, maybe a buildup of toxins from pesticides, DNA mimicking disruptors, effects from genetically modified crops, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/16/are-cell-phones-bee-killers/comment-page-1/#comment-106661</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone been lucky enough to be close to any bees lately?

One day I was sitting on a curve, outside a hospital, texting my sister about my fiance being in there.

As soon as I sent that msg, No Joke! something fell right infront of me on the street! It caught my attention. As I looked on the street infront of me, I saw this bee half &quot;dizzy&quot; like. Lucky after about 2 mins of &quot;dizziness&quot;, it flew off, still rather drunk like, but maybe it lived.?

Coincidence? I don&#039;t know. Anyone else with a simular story?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone been lucky enough to be close to any bees lately?</p>
<p>One day I was sitting on a curve, outside a hospital, texting my sister about my fiance being in there.</p>
<p>As soon as I sent that msg, No Joke! something fell right infront of me on the street! It caught my attention. As I looked on the street infront of me, I saw this bee half &#8220;dizzy&#8221; like. Lucky after about 2 mins of &#8220;dizziness&#8221;, it flew off, still rather drunk like, but maybe it lived.?</p>
<p>Coincidence? I don&#8217;t know. Anyone else with a simular story?</p>
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		<title>By: Earth Lover</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/16/are-cell-phones-bee-killers/comment-page-1/#comment-103902</link>
		<dc:creator>Earth Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Albert Einstein said something about the bee population years and years ago...4 years left to live if they die off.  You would think that would get people thinking but nobody cares because they think that it is just BS.  Well that would be all the cell phone users out there, who won&#039;t give up talking on their cell phone to save one of the species that we depend on for our survival.  I don&#039;t even own a cell phone because of this.  Everyone thinks I am crazy.  How can you not have a cell phone (they say)?  It is more important to me to try to to be part of the solution than part of the problem.  It may be 10 years down the road but the bees are dying off and our crops are already suffering because of it.  Stay in that state of denial.  Keep blaming it on everything else.  Just so you can talk to your friend before you get home.  Cell phones are a VERY unnecessary luxary that we cannot afford to keep on using.  Bees however are VERY necessary!!  I hope that all of you remember this blog when you are starving and people are killing people for their food (like we see in the movies).  You laugh now, you won&#039;t be laughing then I am sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Albert Einstein said something about the bee population years and years ago&#8230;4 years left to live if they die off.  You would think that would get people thinking but nobody cares because they think that it is just BS.  Well that would be all the cell phone users out there, who won&#8217;t give up talking on their cell phone to save one of the species that we depend on for our survival.  I don&#8217;t even own a cell phone because of this.  Everyone thinks I am crazy.  How can you not have a cell phone (they say)?  It is more important to me to try to to be part of the solution than part of the problem.  It may be 10 years down the road but the bees are dying off and our crops are already suffering because of it.  Stay in that state of denial.  Keep blaming it on everything else.  Just so you can talk to your friend before you get home.  Cell phones are a VERY unnecessary luxary that we cannot afford to keep on using.  Bees however are VERY necessary!!  I hope that all of you remember this blog when you are starving and people are killing people for their food (like we see in the movies).  You laugh now, you won&#8217;t be laughing then I am sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris d</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/16/are-cell-phones-bee-killers/comment-page-1/#comment-103232</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 04:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my take on the subject. Go to the source. My brother has been working on cell towers since he was 18, he&#039;s now 26, has his own company.  He has mentioned to me many times that while he is on top of towers, there are dozens of bees up there with him. He has no fear of them however because they just barely hover in the air, bouncing into everything and each other. one day i&#039;ll interview him and put it on youtube. Anyone else know a TowerDog, go ask em&#039;, see what they say. you never know till you try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my take on the subject. Go to the source. My brother has been working on cell towers since he was 18, he&#8217;s now 26, has his own company.  He has mentioned to me many times that while he is on top of towers, there are dozens of bees up there with him. He has no fear of them however because they just barely hover in the air, bouncing into everything and each other. one day i&#8217;ll interview him and put it on youtube. Anyone else know a TowerDog, go ask em&#8217;, see what they say. you never know till you try.</p>
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		<title>By: Chicken Little</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/16/are-cell-phones-bee-killers/comment-page-1/#comment-90215</link>
		<dc:creator>Chicken Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE SKY IS FALLING!  THE SKY IS FALLING!

1. Geeze, people, there has been radiation at a MUCH higher rate around bees than cell phones will ever create.  You just haven&#039;t known about it because you haven&#039;t cared until you got your cell phone.

2. You must all be city slickers.  Go for a drive in the country sometime.  I mean drive 2 or 3 hours out into the country, not just to the nearest suburb.  You will discover no cellular coverage, no pollution, no overcrowding, no landfills, no airplanes colliding in the skies, no light pollution, no terrorism, no crime, no bomb threats, etc. etc.

If all you people who are panicked because the sky is falling would just go spend a few days in the country, you would realize that we don&#039;t need the Federal Government for much of anything, and that life is doing very, very well out here.  The earth will probably someday slough off all the cities and breathe a sigh of relief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE SKY IS FALLING!  THE SKY IS FALLING!</p>
<p>1. Geeze, people, there has been radiation at a MUCH higher rate around bees than cell phones will ever create.  You just haven&#8217;t known about it because you haven&#8217;t cared until you got your cell phone.</p>
<p>2. You must all be city slickers.  Go for a drive in the country sometime.  I mean drive 2 or 3 hours out into the country, not just to the nearest suburb.  You will discover no cellular coverage, no pollution, no overcrowding, no landfills, no airplanes colliding in the skies, no light pollution, no terrorism, no crime, no bomb threats, etc. etc.</p>
<p>If all you people who are panicked because the sky is falling would just go spend a few days in the country, you would realize that we don&#8217;t need the Federal Government for much of anything, and that life is doing very, very well out here.  The earth will probably someday slough off all the cities and breathe a sigh of relief.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/16/are-cell-phones-bee-killers/comment-page-1/#comment-74886</link>
		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously the drones are taking a sabbatical, I mean, the work can be repetitive . . . (just kidding).

Seriously, I read a blog from a bee owner who mentioned two factors:  1.  People are trucking &amp; flying their hives all over to pollinate, and they&#039;re stressed; 2.  she had normal sized bees, but many owners preferred oversized breeds.   I filed the info. in my brain (not bookmarks), but perhaps it was in here:

More info at
www-organicconsumers-org/bees-cfm

Re:  food supplies, check out monsanto; if their patented GM seed blows onto a farmer&#039;s field, farmer Pays, or else be sued.  &quot;Laleva&quot; not my site, just an interesting one; it has an emf link also.

Victoria</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously the drones are taking a sabbatical, I mean, the work can be repetitive . . . (just kidding).</p>
<p>Seriously, I read a blog from a bee owner who mentioned two factors:  1.  People are trucking &amp; flying their hives all over to pollinate, and they&#8217;re stressed; 2.  she had normal sized bees, but many owners preferred oversized breeds.   I filed the info. in my brain (not bookmarks), but perhaps it was in here:</p>
<p>More info at<br />
www-organicconsumers-org/bees-cfm</p>
<p>Re:  food supplies, check out monsanto; if their patented GM seed blows onto a farmer&#8217;s field, farmer Pays, or else be sued.  &#8220;Laleva&#8221; not my site, just an interesting one; it has an emf link also.</p>
<p>Victoria</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/16/are-cell-phones-bee-killers/comment-page-1/#comment-74840</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bees are killed by cell phones?  Imagine that.  I heard that many people are killed using them when driving.  That means only one thing.  Bees should stop flying around using cell phones...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bees are killed by cell phones?  Imagine that.  I heard that many people are killed using them when driving.  That means only one thing.  Bees should stop flying around using cell phones&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/16/are-cell-phones-bee-killers/comment-page-1/#comment-74106</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I sit in front of my computer writing this, my cell phone is sitting right here next to me. My speakers are on. Whenever a cell call comes in, or I receive a text message, my speakers start going haywire. As I listen closely, the sound is somewhat similar to a fax machine.

It&#039;s obvious to me that the sounds are the audible representation of data packets or whatever is transmitted via a cell phone.

If the data coming into my cell phone interferes with the speakers on my computer, it&#039;s very possible that a bee, with its own receiving antennae, can be disrupted by the signal.

People on this blog are throwing out some matter of fact comments about this problem. Where are you getting your facts, and what is your experience? Identify your foundation of knowledge, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I sit in front of my computer writing this, my cell phone is sitting right here next to me. My speakers are on. Whenever a cell call comes in, or I receive a text message, my speakers start going haywire. As I listen closely, the sound is somewhat similar to a fax machine.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s obvious to me that the sounds are the audible representation of data packets or whatever is transmitted via a cell phone.</p>
<p>If the data coming into my cell phone interferes with the speakers on my computer, it&#8217;s very possible that a bee, with its own receiving antennae, can be disrupted by the signal.</p>
<p>People on this blog are throwing out some matter of fact comments about this problem. Where are you getting your facts, and what is your experience? Identify your foundation of knowledge, please.</p>
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		<title>By: s phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/16/are-cell-phones-bee-killers/comment-page-1/#comment-72547</link>
		<dc:creator>s phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>set up beehives around cell phone towers and set some up where there is no cell phone coverage and see how they differ.  I believe the answer is a combination of things, mostly on the increased population of people and their pollution, including pesticides...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>set up beehives around cell phone towers and set some up where there is no cell phone coverage and see how they differ.  I believe the answer is a combination of things, mostly on the increased population of people and their pollution, including pesticides&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: L. Gernert</title>
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		<dc:creator>L. Gernert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 04:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I am not a scientist,I know that bees need food; therefore, plant, plant, plant.  The more flowers and plants that bees love, the better chance they have while we are trying to find the solution to their decrease.  

Who knows what the problem is--pollution (noise, chemical, air, radiation, etc.  At least we can do our part to feed them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I am not a scientist,I know that bees need food; therefore, plant, plant, plant.  The more flowers and plants that bees love, the better chance they have while we are trying to find the solution to their decrease.  </p>
<p>Who knows what the problem is&#8211;pollution (noise, chemical, air, radiation, etc.  At least we can do our part to feed them.</p>
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