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	<title>Comments on: Media and massacre</title>
	<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/17/media-and-massacre/</link>
	<description>A web site by Joshua Sowin that addresses culture, books, technology, ecology, religion, and other topics.</description>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/17/media-and-massacre/#comment-17200</link>
		<author>Justin</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/17/media-and-massacre/#comment-17200</guid>
		<description>Hi Josh,
Thanks for the thoughtful response. As I listened to NPR yesterday, I was struck by how tasteful and honoring their stories on the massacre were. The people they interviewed were having their stories told, not being exploited. With this presentation, it becomes a human interest piece, not something everyone in America needs to know everything about. 

As I watched the coverage on the major TV networks Monday night, I wondered why we should have to know all of these details. At the supermarket today, I could not characterize the cover of People Magazine, featuring a photo of a person who'd been shot being carried by police and EMTs, as anything other than trashy and exploitative.

I suppose there is a substantive difference, but I think both NPR and my blog feed the same underlying interest as the major networks and magazines - the need to know about someone else's suffering. We can choose to learn about their suffering for our own entertainment (especially, dare I say, the gore factor), or as a chance to reflect on our own mortality and the way we live.

One further note: I found &lt;a href="http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001.9.12.102423.271.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this essay entitled "Why the Bombings Mean That We Must Support My Politics"&lt;/a&gt; via BoingBoing - written for 9/11, but equally applicable to the VT shootings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh,<br />
Thanks for the thoughtful response. As I listened to NPR yesterday, I was struck by how tasteful and honoring their stories on the massacre were. The people they interviewed were having their stories told, not being exploited. With this presentation, it becomes a human interest piece, not something everyone in America needs to know everything about. </p>
<p>As I watched the coverage on the major TV networks Monday night, I wondered why we should have to know all of these details. At the supermarket today, I could not characterize the cover of People Magazine, featuring a photo of a person who&#8217;d been shot being carried by police and EMTs, as anything other than trashy and exploitative.</p>
<p>I suppose there is a substantive difference, but I think both NPR and my blog feed the same underlying interest as the major networks and magazines - the need to know about someone else&#8217;s suffering. We can choose to learn about their suffering for our own entertainment (especially, dare I say, the gore factor), or as a chance to reflect on our own mortality and the way we live.</p>
<p>One further note: I found <a href="http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001.9.12.102423.271.html" rel="nofollow">this essay entitled &#8220;Why the Bombings Mean That We Must Support My Politics&#8221;</a> via BoingBoing - written for 9/11, but equally applicable to the VT shootings.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Sowin</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/17/media-and-massacre/#comment-16828</link>
		<author>Josh Sowin</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/17/media-and-massacre/#comment-16828</guid>
		<description>Justin,

It must be something about &lt;em&gt;The Discoverers&lt;/em&gt; -- I've been trying to finish it for over a year! I keep putting it down as well. I find the history fascinating, but it must be boring me, because I can't keep reading it like most other books.

&lt;em&gt;The Image&lt;/em&gt; isn't like that. I was able to finish it easily and found it very enlightening, much like Postman's book. (I actually heard of it first through Postman.)

That's an interesting point about making revenue from ads on your blog. But I think that's a completely different thing. You are not turning this massacre into entertainment for your readers. You are not designing logos and getting in the face of those who were just hurt and asking inappropriate questions of them. You are not milking every last angle of the story. And they're &lt;em&gt;doing&lt;/em&gt; it for the ads; you're not.

That is, you are not "doing the same thing as TV networks," anymore than a church does the same thing as a business because it collects money.

That's my perspective, anyway.

Josh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,</p>
<p>It must be something about <em>The Discoverers</em> &#8212; I&#8217;ve been trying to finish it for over a year! I keep putting it down as well. I find the history fascinating, but it must be boring me, because I can&#8217;t keep reading it like most other books.</p>
<p><em>The Image</em> isn&#8217;t like that. I was able to finish it easily and found it very enlightening, much like Postman&#8217;s book. (I actually heard of it first through Postman.)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an interesting point about making revenue from ads on your blog. But I think that&#8217;s a completely different thing. You are not turning this massacre into entertainment for your readers. You are not designing logos and getting in the face of those who were just hurt and asking inappropriate questions of them. You are not milking every last angle of the story. And they&#8217;re <em>doing</em> it for the ads; you&#8217;re not.</p>
<p>That is, you are not &#8220;doing the same thing as TV networks,&#8221; anymore than a church does the same thing as a business because it collects money.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my perspective, anyway.</p>
<p>Josh</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/17/media-and-massacre/#comment-16800</link>
		<author>Justin</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/17/media-and-massacre/#comment-16800</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the link. Boorstin and Postman are both brilliant, though I haven't read that book of Boorstin's (I've been trying for ten years to get through The Discoverers, and it's fascinating, though I always seem to put it away before getting very far). I've read everything of Postman's, and he's right on target when it comes to media.

I have a friend who majored in TV production, and he told me one day "The purpose of all media is to attract an audience for advertisers." That's not much of a surprise when it comes to sitcoms and other shows that explicitly exist for entertainment purposes, but it's highly disturbing when they are using the death of our fellow humans to increase ratings.

At the same time, I'm complicit. I watched Nightline for the first time ever, and while we're not a Nielsen household, I'm sure their ratings do go up during times of tragedy. They offer a public service, but it's also entertainment, and sometimes that mixed purpose is unpalatable.

On a different level of complicity, I have ads on my blog (or rather, Amazon book links). If I blog about a hot news topic, and get more traffic and ultimately more revenue, I'm doing the same thing as the TV networks. What's the way out?

Thanks for your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link. Boorstin and Postman are both brilliant, though I haven&#8217;t read that book of Boorstin&#8217;s (I&#8217;ve been trying for ten years to get through The Discoverers, and it&#8217;s fascinating, though I always seem to put it away before getting very far). I&#8217;ve read everything of Postman&#8217;s, and he&#8217;s right on target when it comes to media.</p>
<p>I have a friend who majored in TV production, and he told me one day &#8220;The purpose of all media is to attract an audience for advertisers.&#8221; That&#8217;s not much of a surprise when it comes to sitcoms and other shows that explicitly exist for entertainment purposes, but it&#8217;s highly disturbing when they are using the death of our fellow humans to increase ratings.</p>
<p>At the same time, I&#8217;m complicit. I watched Nightline for the first time ever, and while we&#8217;re not a Nielsen household, I&#8217;m sure their ratings do go up during times of tragedy. They offer a public service, but it&#8217;s also entertainment, and sometimes that mixed purpose is unpalatable.</p>
<p>On a different level of complicity, I have ads on my blog (or rather, Amazon book links). If I blog about a hot news topic, and get more traffic and ultimately more revenue, I&#8217;m doing the same thing as the TV networks. What&#8217;s the way out?</p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/17/media-and-massacre/#comment-16749</link>
		<author>Kevin</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/17/media-and-massacre/#comment-16749</guid>
		<description>Joshua,  
  In agreement with Esau, you are not being too harsh. I think you are correct in your estimation of the news media. I too was turned off with the television news reports. The night of the tragedy there was an hour long special on one network channel. That very night!! Before anything was really known!! I believe it was disrespectful to those involved and more about preying on people's curiosity to gain profits than to tell the news.

kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua,<br />
  In agreement with Esau, you are not being too harsh. I think you are correct in your estimation of the news media. I too was turned off with the television news reports. The night of the tragedy there was an hour long special on one network channel. That very night!! Before anything was really known!! I believe it was disrespectful to those involved and more about preying on people&#8217;s curiosity to gain profits than to tell the news.</p>
<p>kevin</p>
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		<title>By: Esau</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/17/media-and-massacre/#comment-16742</link>
		<author>Esau</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/17/media-and-massacre/#comment-16742</guid>
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Perhaps I am being too harsh. I probably am.
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No. No, you're not. It's bread and circuses, MSNBC style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote:<br />
Perhaps I am being too harsh. I probably am.<br />
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<p>No. No, you&#8217;re not. It&#8217;s bread and circuses, MSNBC style.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/17/media-and-massacre/#comment-16677</link>
		<author>Aaron Martin</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/04/17/media-and-massacre/#comment-16677</guid>
		<description>I am in complete agreement. I can't watch any T.V. news anymore. All it is is irrational fear-mongering and exploitation of violent events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in complete agreement. I can&#8217;t watch any T.V. news anymore. All it is is irrational fear-mongering and exploitation of violent events.</p>
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