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	<title>Comments on: Defining terrorism the right way (Wallis)</title>
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		<title>By: Josh Sowin</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/09/23/defining-terrorism-the-right-way-wallis/comment-page-1/#comment-47794</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Sowin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>holmegm: Torture might not be called terrorism, but I think it probably could be considered it. That&#039;s Wallis&#039;s point -- we give it our own special definition so we&#039;re never the ones doing it. And of course they do the same.

As for your example with apartment buildings, I&#039;m surprised you are really serious about that. So if terrorists are hiding in your apartment building, it is their fault that they bomb your building while you are in it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holmegm: Torture might not be called terrorism, but I think it probably could be considered it. That&#8217;s Wallis&#8217;s point &#8212; we give it our own special definition so we&#8217;re never the ones doing it. And of course they do the same.</p>
<p>As for your example with apartment buildings, I&#8217;m surprised you are really serious about that. So if terrorists are hiding in your apartment building, it is their fault that they bomb your building while you are in it?</p>
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		<title>By: holmegm</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/09/23/defining-terrorism-the-right-way-wallis/comment-page-1/#comment-47618</link>
		<dc:creator>holmegm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;“Terrorism is the deliberate act of hurting or killing innocent people to further an agenda.”

That should get around your objection. What do you think? Any better suggestions?&lt;/em&gt;

Well, it&#039;s better, but I still don&#039;t think so - for example torture used in interrogation is not normally called &quot;terrorism&quot;, however despicable it is.

How about &quot;an attempt to induce terror in a civilian population by the use of non-warfare means of violence?&quot; That&#039;s what we usually mean by the word, when we aren&#039;t bending it to novel political uses. The fact that actual terrorists hide in &quot;apartment buildings full of civilians and children&quot; is not the fault of &quot;those who order military strikes&quot;, but rather of the terrorists themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“Terrorism is the deliberate act of hurting or killing innocent people to further an agenda.”</p>
<p>That should get around your objection. What do you think? Any better suggestions?</em></p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s better, but I still don&#8217;t think so &#8211; for example torture used in interrogation is not normally called &#8220;terrorism&#8221;, however despicable it is.</p>
<p>How about &#8220;an attempt to induce terror in a civilian population by the use of non-warfare means of violence?&#8221; That&#8217;s what we usually mean by the word, when we aren&#8217;t bending it to novel political uses. The fact that actual terrorists hide in &#8220;apartment buildings full of civilians and children&#8221; is not the fault of &#8220;those who order military strikes&#8221;, but rather of the terrorists themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Sowin</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/09/23/defining-terrorism-the-right-way-wallis/comment-page-1/#comment-47607</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Sowin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good point. This might be a more precise definition:

&quot;Terrorism is the deliberate act of hurting or killing innocent people to further an agenda.&quot;

That should get around your objection. What do you think? Any better suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good point. This might be a more precise definition:</p>
<p>&#8220;Terrorism is the deliberate act of hurting or killing innocent people to further an agenda.&#8221;</p>
<p>That should get around your objection. What do you think? Any better suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: holmegm</title>
		<link>http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2007/09/23/defining-terrorism-the-right-way-wallis/comment-page-1/#comment-47605</link>
		<dc:creator>holmegm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Let’s define terrorism the right way, and allow no double standards. Terrorism is the deliberative taking of innocent lives.&lt;/em&gt;

Um, no; that&#039;s murder.  Not all murder is terrorism.

I understand his confusion, though.  Surely Jim Wallis didn&#039;t mean to call abortion &quot;terrorism&quot;, so his thoughts are apparently rather muddled when it comes to the subject of murder ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Let’s define terrorism the right way, and allow no double standards. Terrorism is the deliberative taking of innocent lives.</em></p>
<p>Um, no; that&#8217;s murder.  Not all murder is terrorism.</p>
<p>I understand his confusion, though.  Surely Jim Wallis didn&#8217;t mean to call abortion &#8220;terrorism&#8221;, so his thoughts are apparently rather muddled when it comes to the subject of murder &#8230;</p>
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