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	<title>Comments on: Bankruptcy, not bailout, is the right answer (Miron)</title>
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		<title>By: Matt Carlson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Carlson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bankruptcy will leave the shareholders holding the bag.  Anyone with a pension plan, IRA, 401x, or 457 plan is a shareholder - meaning almost every person who is employed and earning over $30K per year.

Bailout will leave the taxpayers holding the bag - the ones who pay the most taxes, meaning every person who is employed and earning over $30K per year.

Either way, the same people will pay for this.

The real decision is whether we filter the funds through the government, or private capital markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bankruptcy will leave the shareholders holding the bag.  Anyone with a pension plan, IRA, 401x, or 457 plan is a shareholder &#8211; meaning almost every person who is employed and earning over $30K per year.</p>
<p>Bailout will leave the taxpayers holding the bag &#8211; the ones who pay the most taxes, meaning every person who is employed and earning over $30K per year.</p>
<p>Either way, the same people will pay for this.</p>
<p>The real decision is whether we filter the funds through the government, or private capital markets.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Sowin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Sowin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I knew what was the right thing to do. It&#039;s too complex — I can&#039;t see far enough ahead to know what will happen whether there is a bailout or not. And it seems neither do the experts, because they&#039;re all over the map about what will happen or won&#039;t happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I knew what was the right thing to do. It&#8217;s too complex — I can&#8217;t see far enough ahead to know what will happen whether there is a bailout or not. And it seems neither do the experts, because they&#8217;re all over the map about what will happen or won&#8217;t happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff McFadden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff McFadden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can agree that there were many who &quot;knowingly engaged in risky subprime lending.&quot; 

But when the government had an implicit guarantee behind those securities, it wasn&#039;t nearly as irrational nor greedy as it appears at first glance. 

I can certainly agree with the idea that &quot;any response should eliminate the conditions that created this situation in the first place, not attempt to fix bad government with more government.&quot; I think that should include a time-based goal to sell off all of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac&#039;s assets and shut them down for good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can agree that there were many who &#8220;knowingly engaged in risky subprime lending.&#8221; </p>
<p>But when the government had an implicit guarantee behind those securities, it wasn&#8217;t nearly as irrational nor greedy as it appears at first glance. </p>
<p>I can certainly agree with the idea that &#8220;any response should eliminate the conditions that created this situation in the first place, not attempt to fix bad government with more government.&#8221; I think that should include a time-based goal to sell off all of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac&#8217;s assets and shut them down for good.</p>
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